This is difficult. The slender man works on supernatural elements. Specifically the kind that don't really utilize physics. Something the doc really doesn't understand, or have control over. Furthermore, we know he can take out a squad of armed marines, as per one of the original elements of the story. But we don't really know how. He just 'does'. However, his best abilities seemingly lie in being able to drive people nuts. Doc Manhattan is still capable of emotion, as seen when he vanishes an entire talk show out of anger. If confronted by something that his all encompassing senses and abilities can not deal with, over time, I think he might actually lose it, and end up gibbering. Blasting apart the slenderman may work, but he's like the cat who came back. He's always there, the very next day.
As a note, the slender man is a manifestation of imagination, and fear. The only way to lock slenderman into place and strip him of his powers is to see him. Ultimately, this is a glaring weakness normally, but Doctor Manhattan does not 'see' as others do. Slenderman's powers rely on distortions of reality. The doctor sees reality in all of its chemical and physical states, but does not 'visually' see. If we consider that the slenderman is not actually part of our reality, then the Doctor can not actually even lock him in place as normal people could. Nor would his powers even affect him.
Exactly. Manhattan's power is that he can "Manipulate matter on a subatomic level" which is certainly impressive, but Slenderman is in your head, he isn't a part of physics. On top of that, Slenderman can erase parts of your mind. J in marble hornets lost SEVEN months of memory just by getting NEAR Slenderman. Dr. Manhattan poofs Slenderman away, turns around, and there he is, watching. So tall. Watching me. Run. ⊗
He proceeds to erase both your, and the doc's memory, The doctor, then has to spend the next century or so trying to figure out how to hold his physical structure together or even affect things again. Without his knowledge of physics, it's gonna' be a long, long time before hes fighting fit. Maybe the next tournament, if he's lucky. :D
I respectfully disagree. Despite Slenderman's supernatural powers, he still has physical form, unlike some other supernatural beings. And he certainly *is* a part of "our reality" otherwise he would not be able to physically mutilate corpses. Dr. Manhattan can manipulate such matter as Slenderman's body, and so can easily destroy Slenderman once he perceives the being. Keep in mind also, that Dr. Manhattan's body, and therefore mind, are no longer composed in human fashion, and so would be difficult for Slenderman to affect. Furthermore, Dr. Manhattan observes reality as it *actually is*, so Slenderman's imagination-induced terror would have no effect.I respectfully disagree. Despite Slenderman's supernatural powers, he still has physical form, unlike some other supernatural beings. And he certainly *is* a part of "our reality" otherwise he would not be able to physically mutilate corpses. Dr. Manhattan can manipulate such matter as Slenderman's body, and so can easily destroy Slenderman once he perceives the being. Keep in mind also, that Dr. Manhattan's body, and therefore mind, are no longer composed in human fashion, and so would be difficult for Slenderman to affect. Furthermore, Dr. Manhattan observes reality as it *actually is*, so Slenderman's imagination-induced terror would have no effect.
I love the Slender Man Mythos. I actually write a Fiction Blog in said universe. But I've got to give this one to Dr. Manhattan.
Lets not mince words. Dr. Manhattan is a physical god who has perfect perception of the future and the past (except when certain devices are in play.) The man has power to spare, and can do pretty much everything The Slender Man does by virtue of being Dr. Manhattan.
Zeke Strahm escaped the Slender Man alive, and he was a mortal man. Alex Kralie escaped him for the better part of 3 years before Jay pulled him back in during Marble Hornets. NO ONE escapes Dr. Manhattan. The only reason Adrian Veidt survived was because Dr. Manhattan didn't feel like watching the entire planet kill itself over the aftershock of finding out it was all Adrian's plot.
Dr. Manhattan is NOT bound by the normal laws of physics. He wipes people out with his mind. He won the Vietnam War singlehandedly. The Slender Man actually has to WORK to hunt people down. He can take out squads of infantry, but nothing on the scale of Dr. Manhattan.
Dr. Manhattan will look at the Slender Man. He will observe how The Slender Man defies the laws of physics. He will locate The Slender Man's actual existence with his mind, and then obliterate it. Then he will go off to another world like he originally intended to, and create a few random humans. Because he's a god, and it would be boring otherwise.
I repeat what I said earlier, Dr. Manhattan's power is that he can "Manipulate atoms on a subatomic level". It follows that if a being isn't made of atoms and matter, then he is untouchable by this. You've said that Slenderman has a strict physical form because he manipulates physical things. Are we to say that a ghost is physical? How does the ability to manipulate physical objects necessarily make someone physical?
If you write a blog then you'd know that it's fairly well established that Slenderman has power because people believe in him. I saw fairlywell established because Slenderman is a sort of urban legend. Show me a definitively canon source. We can't even properly define Slenderman. Why? He isn't physical and exists in our heads. He isn't "real". I say that to mean more than just that he's a fictional character. Slenderman exists where we think he is. He is just at the edge of our vision, in the darkness. Waiting. He is nowhere.
I'm with Mavet. I differ slightly however in that he decidedly has a physical body. The key difference here is- Great. You poofed his body. Only it comes back instantly because its belief that keeps him alive, not some sort of physical anatomy. He's magical in a way that defies Doctor Manhattan's range of abilities. Theres supernatural, that works off the rules as we know them only somewhat altered- and then there's beyond natural entirely. The slender man doesn't operate under the same rules. He works on horror movie rules. It doesnt matter how effective you are, or your abilities, ultimately, he's one step ahead. Again, remember your horror movie rules. He can't be combated in the normal sense, and the only way to really combat the slender man is to visually see him. Something Doctor Manhattan does not do. It's his very powers that lead to his undoing here.
I say it's a draw, being as how I'm just going to assume that Slender Man is really just Doc Manhattan wearing a white morphsuit and an off-the-rack suit-and-tie combo.
The only thing I deleted was a description of Doc Manhattan as having "limitless natural abilities." He is by definition in his own universe a super hero. Even outside of that, in our world he would be a god. That is the only piece I deleted seeing as how he has by no means only natural abilities.
To play devil's advocate for a moment, would Doctor Manhattan even bother to show up to fight? He's proven himself an indifferent god for the most part, one who would probably look at the whole tournament, shrug, and go off to somewhere else. If he doesn't care much about the disputes of humans, why would he care for a dispute with something created by humans?
Since Doctor Manhattan refuses to show up (there's no rule against the combatants not caring enough to show up at present), then the Slender Man wins by forfeit. Discuss?
This is difficult. The slender man works on supernatural elements. Specifically the kind that don't really utilize physics. Something the doc really doesn't understand, or have control over. Furthermore, we know he can take out a squad of armed marines, as per one of the original elements of the story. But we don't really know how. He just 'does'. However, his best abilities seemingly lie in being able to drive people nuts. Doc Manhattan is still capable of emotion, as seen when he vanishes an entire talk show out of anger. If confronted by something that his all encompassing senses and abilities can not deal with, over time, I think he might actually lose it, and end up gibbering. Blasting apart the slenderman may work, but he's like the cat who came back. He's always there, the very next day.
ReplyDeleteAs a note, the slender man is a manifestation of imagination, and fear. The only way to lock slenderman into place and strip him of his powers is to see him. Ultimately, this is a glaring weakness normally, but Doctor Manhattan does not 'see' as others do. Slenderman's powers rely on distortions of reality. The doctor sees reality in all of its chemical and physical states, but does not 'visually' see. If we consider that the slenderman is not actually part of our reality, then the Doctor can not actually even lock him in place as normal people could. Nor would his powers even affect him.
ReplyDeleteThis, a million times this ^
ReplyDeleteExactly. Manhattan's power is that he can "Manipulate matter on a subatomic level" which is certainly impressive, but Slenderman is in your head, he isn't a part of physics. On top of that, Slenderman can erase parts of your mind. J in marble hornets lost SEVEN months of memory just by getting NEAR Slenderman. Dr. Manhattan poofs Slenderman away, turns around, and there he is, watching. So tall. Watching me. Run. ⊗
He proceeds to erase both your, and the doc's memory, The doctor, then has to spend the next century or so trying to figure out how to hold his physical structure together or even affect things again. Without his knowledge of physics, it's gonna' be a long, long time before hes fighting fit. Maybe the next tournament, if he's lucky. :D
ReplyDeleteI respectfully disagree. Despite Slenderman's supernatural powers, he still has physical form, unlike some other supernatural beings. And he certainly *is* a part of "our reality" otherwise he would not be able to physically mutilate corpses. Dr. Manhattan can manipulate such matter as Slenderman's body, and so can easily destroy Slenderman once he perceives the being. Keep in mind also, that Dr. Manhattan's body, and therefore mind, are no longer composed in human fashion, and so would be difficult for Slenderman to affect. Furthermore, Dr. Manhattan observes reality as it *actually is*, so Slenderman's imagination-induced terror would have no effect.I respectfully disagree. Despite Slenderman's supernatural powers, he still has physical form, unlike some other supernatural beings. And he certainly *is* a part of "our reality" otherwise he would not be able to physically mutilate corpses. Dr. Manhattan can manipulate such matter as Slenderman's body, and so can easily destroy Slenderman once he perceives the being. Keep in mind also, that Dr. Manhattan's body, and therefore mind, are no longer composed in human fashion, and so would be difficult for Slenderman to affect. Furthermore, Dr. Manhattan observes reality as it *actually is*, so Slenderman's imagination-induced terror would have no effect.
ReplyDeleteI love the Slender Man Mythos. I actually write a Fiction Blog in said universe. But I've got to give this one to Dr. Manhattan.
ReplyDeleteLets not mince words. Dr. Manhattan is a physical god who has perfect perception of the future and the past (except when certain devices are in play.) The man has power to spare, and can do pretty much everything The Slender Man does by virtue of being Dr. Manhattan.
Zeke Strahm escaped the Slender Man alive, and he was a mortal man. Alex Kralie escaped him for the better part of 3 years before Jay pulled him back in during Marble Hornets. NO ONE escapes Dr. Manhattan. The only reason Adrian Veidt survived was because Dr. Manhattan didn't feel like watching the entire planet kill itself over the aftershock of finding out it was all Adrian's plot.
Dr. Manhattan is NOT bound by the normal laws of physics. He wipes people out with his mind. He won the Vietnam War singlehandedly. The Slender Man actually has to WORK to hunt people down. He can take out squads of infantry, but nothing on the scale of Dr. Manhattan.
Dr. Manhattan will look at the Slender Man. He will observe how The Slender Man defies the laws of physics. He will locate The Slender Man's actual existence with his mind, and then obliterate it. Then he will go off to another world like he originally intended to, and create a few random humans. Because he's a god, and it would be boring otherwise.
I repeat what I said earlier, Dr. Manhattan's power is that he can "Manipulate atoms on a subatomic level". It follows that if a being isn't made of atoms and matter, then he is untouchable by this. You've said that Slenderman has a strict physical form because he manipulates physical things. Are we to say that a ghost is physical? How does the ability to manipulate physical objects necessarily make someone physical?
ReplyDeleteIf you write a blog then you'd know that it's fairly well established that Slenderman has power because people believe in him. I saw fairlywell established because Slenderman is a sort of urban legend. Show me a definitively canon source. We can't even properly define Slenderman. Why? He isn't physical and exists in our heads. He isn't "real". I say that to mean more than just that he's a fictional character. Slenderman exists where we think he is. He is just at the edge of our vision, in the darkness. Waiting. He is nowhere.
I'm with Mavet. I differ slightly however in that he decidedly has a physical body. The key difference here is- Great. You poofed his body. Only it comes back instantly because its belief that keeps him alive, not some sort of physical anatomy. He's magical in a way that defies Doctor Manhattan's range of abilities. Theres supernatural, that works off the rules as we know them only somewhat altered- and then there's beyond natural entirely. The slender man doesn't operate under the same rules. He works on horror movie rules. It doesnt matter how effective you are, or your abilities, ultimately, he's one step ahead. Again, remember your horror movie rules. He can't be combated in the normal sense, and the only way to really combat the slender man is to visually see him. Something Doctor Manhattan does not do. It's his very powers that lead to his undoing here.
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ReplyDeleteI say it's a draw, being as how I'm just going to assume that Slender Man is really just Doc Manhattan wearing a white morphsuit and an off-the-rack suit-and-tie combo.
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ReplyDeletewhat? why was mine deleted? it IS canon that he isn't canon.
ReplyDeleteand how is "slenderman is really just doc manhattan" an accurate description?
ReplyDeleteThe only thing I deleted was a description of Doc Manhattan as having "limitless natural abilities." He is by definition in his own universe a super hero. Even outside of that, in our world he would be a god. That is the only piece I deleted seeing as how he has by no means only natural abilities.
ReplyDeleteOk. Objection retracted.
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ReplyDeleteTo play devil's advocate for a moment, would Doctor Manhattan even bother to show up to fight? He's proven himself an indifferent god for the most part, one who would probably look at the whole tournament, shrug, and go off to somewhere else. If he doesn't care much about the disputes of humans, why would he care for a dispute with something created by humans?
ReplyDeleteSince Doctor Manhattan refuses to show up (there's no rule against the combatants not caring enough to show up at present), then the Slender Man wins by forfeit. Discuss?
Much like Mortal Kombat, we must, for the purpose of having any interesting outcomes, assume that they do indeed have motivation to fight.
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